You didn't answer
The last few days have been really hard for me. Lots of doubt, lots of questions, lots of pain.
I had to go interstate and leave you at home. You knew that this caused me grief because we spoke about. You promised me that you would not let me down. You even made a suggestion that we went together on the weekend, but as usual that just didn't fit with your work commitments. Funny that, heh? Same old, same old, isn't it Charlie?
So I packed the car and left after grabbing some crap to eat on the way at the local drive thru. God I hate that crap, but I just wanted to reach my destination to see my kids.
I had only travelled 25 minutes into the trip and had to call you for something. I can't remember what it was but it was probably not anything of significance.
You didn't answer.
I went numb. I broke out in a sweat. My heart raced.
I was driving but really cannot remember anything else. I was in a daze. This wasn't happening. You wouldn't do this to me, would you?
I had to swallow to stop myself from throwing up. I didn't want to pull over because I knew that I would be violently ill on the side of the road. Not only that, but if I pulled over I would turn back and I knew I had no choice but to keep going.
So I drove.
With my heart in my throat and sweat dripping down my face, I drove.
And then you called.
I was in tears, just about hysterical. I didn't even want to answer my phone. I didn't want to speak to you. I didn't want to hear the inevitable.
But I answered.
You knew I was distressed. I was sobbing. But I couldn't speak to tell you what was wrong. I just drove whilst crying down the phone line into your ear that was miles away.
You had no idea what was wrong. You asked me, but still I could not speak. You continued to ask but the words would not come out. They were stuck behind my lunch that sat at the back of my throat, waiting to be rejected by my body.
I finally calmed down enough to speak.
I screamed at you. I yelled abuse at you. I ranted. I swore at you, calling you all sorts of names.
You cried with me. You apologised and again promised that you would not let me down. You simply couldn't get your phone out of your pocket in time to answer it before it diverted to message bank.
I fucking hate my life at the moment. So much distrust, so much scepticism, so much doubt, so much paranoia, so much pain.
Thanks Charlie for turning such an everyday trip to visit my parents into a living fucking nightmare for me.
From the bottom of my heart......thank you.
I had to go interstate and leave you at home. You knew that this caused me grief because we spoke about. You promised me that you would not let me down. You even made a suggestion that we went together on the weekend, but as usual that just didn't fit with your work commitments. Funny that, heh? Same old, same old, isn't it Charlie?
So I packed the car and left after grabbing some crap to eat on the way at the local drive thru. God I hate that crap, but I just wanted to reach my destination to see my kids.
I had only travelled 25 minutes into the trip and had to call you for something. I can't remember what it was but it was probably not anything of significance.
You didn't answer.
I went numb. I broke out in a sweat. My heart raced.
I was driving but really cannot remember anything else. I was in a daze. This wasn't happening. You wouldn't do this to me, would you?
I had to swallow to stop myself from throwing up. I didn't want to pull over because I knew that I would be violently ill on the side of the road. Not only that, but if I pulled over I would turn back and I knew I had no choice but to keep going.
So I drove.
With my heart in my throat and sweat dripping down my face, I drove.
And then you called.
I was in tears, just about hysterical. I didn't even want to answer my phone. I didn't want to speak to you. I didn't want to hear the inevitable.
But I answered.
You knew I was distressed. I was sobbing. But I couldn't speak to tell you what was wrong. I just drove whilst crying down the phone line into your ear that was miles away.
You had no idea what was wrong. You asked me, but still I could not speak. You continued to ask but the words would not come out. They were stuck behind my lunch that sat at the back of my throat, waiting to be rejected by my body.
I finally calmed down enough to speak.
I screamed at you. I yelled abuse at you. I ranted. I swore at you, calling you all sorts of names.
You cried with me. You apologised and again promised that you would not let me down. You simply couldn't get your phone out of your pocket in time to answer it before it diverted to message bank.
I fucking hate my life at the moment. So much distrust, so much scepticism, so much doubt, so much paranoia, so much pain.
Thanks Charlie for turning such an everyday trip to visit my parents into a living fucking nightmare for me.
From the bottom of my heart......thank you.
35 Comments:
Oh Kate .. how difficult that must be. Wanting reassurance and not being able to find it.
I can only imagine, a lifetime ago when I had those feelings ... the difference is Your Charlie, he wants to try. Mine didn't .... I hope (pray) that you can overcome this ...
Oh Kate, I'm so sorry for your pain.
It will pass.
It will become a memory, like the hole you can no longer see in the wall.
He loves you. He couldn't get his phone out quick enough. That's all.
He is there for you, he will never stray again. His love for you is so tangible, I can see it right here on the weather map at Christmas Island!!!!
I'm coming your way in April! Wanna have lunch?
Kate, hold on. Deep breath. Remember your birthday. You are what he wants. I'm thinking of you.
Hope today was better. It will keep getting better. One day at a time. Don't forget to breath.
*BIG huge SIGH*
I dread those feelings of near panic and then guilt for being overcome and words spoken after they are too late to take them back.
If you have really made the decision to stay and work things through, you will have to start to trust LITTLE BY LITTLE...I don't think he has earned it full force yet. I do think he has shown you by trying so hard that he will be faithful to you TODAY...and that is all you can ask for. None of us have a crystal ball.
HUGS
Oh Kate, (((((HUGS)))))I'm so sorry you went through that. I can only imagine the panic that set in and all the pain it brought up.
There will come a time, though, when your 1st reaction won't be this way and when you will be able to trust once again. I am pulling for you guys to make it.
I don't want to seem trite and say that "time heals all wounds" but I can tell you that time does take the edge off. It won't always be this horrible.
Oh, Kate, I'm so sorry that you are feeling this way today. Your feelings are definitely understandable, though.
I echo what frannie says - at least your Charlie is definitely showing that he wants to try - that's so much better than what we both got. I really hope and pray that you can get through this.
I know what its like to run into things that remind you of the past affair, or show the trust isn't there where it once was. Its been years since my wife's affair, and still there is sometimes doubt. But not as much as there once was. Try to take a deep breath and remember all the things he has done since then to try to make your relationship work again. And remember them next time the phone isn't answered.
Why don't you just get on with things, if you decide to stay then you have to deal with it ... either forgive him or don't... two wrongs don't make a right... you are with him because you love him!!! So love him and stop making your life worse... or just leave him and be happy with someone else that has never hurt you... Way too Much Drama!!!
Oh how wonderful if life was as black and white as the last anon suggested, for one there d be no home growing terrorist for a start ( personal beef ) but alas its not.
Untill your in Kates shoes and I hope yu never are, you will never never know the struggle.
I know that feeling all too well. If my husband doesn't answer right away when I think he should I totally panic, cry, the whole nine yards. I'm so sorry you are dealing with this.
If you keep beating him up, why will he want to stay?
Why don't you get over him my dad did this to my mum for years, it never stops. My mum is now living a marriage where she isn't happy with her husband and her kids paid for it for the past 20 years. Tell him to get stuffed once a cheater they always will be, and there will always be another with another excuse. From the kid who has been through four known affairs.
two wrongs don't make a right
Interesting comment.
So I guess, in your eyes, I am 'wrong' for reacting the way I did? Would you believe that someone that was in the twin towers on Sept 11 would be reacting in the wrong way if 12 months after the event they clammed up upon return to the site?
You see despite what you may believe anonymous, infidelity is a form of trauma. You may not be able to see the wounds physically, but ask anyone that has suffered the pain of infidelity and they will all tell you how horrific the injuries are.
If I were hit by a truck you would not expect me to get up and walk. Well I am just coming out of my coma now. Hopefully I will fully recover.
I guess time will tell.
WOW November,
I am sorry you had to live that as a child.
Did your dad ever show any remorse or try to correct things between himself and your mum? Or was it just 'swept under the carpet'?
My husband is very remorseful and has identified his failings. He is seeing a psychologist and working through his issues.
It is hard work, from both sides. But I guess, from what I have read on infidelity, I am one of the luckiest ones where the unfaithful spouse takes full responsibilty and begins to address the personality issues within themself.
And one other thing November.....I can honestly say I would not stick around if he EVER did this again.
Once I might be able to forgive.
Twice.......not a hope in hell.
Yeah my dad did show remorse and "cried real tears" (sorry my dad didn't even cry at his own mothers funeral). My mum tries to sweep it under the carpet but us kids always understood the constant jibes at my dad. I love your words kiss me kate but like I said once is enough, they will always do it again. My ex has also cheated on me and once a child see's that, they will thinks it's alright for their husband/partner to do the same thing to them and they will forgive, and if you have kids don't EVER let them see that especially being a girl, they will think it's alright to forgive any male and what they put them through. You can be strong your bigger than him and all of this crap.
And as I laid on the floor hugging one of my girls while the other hugged my back. As I picked them both up from school today and we talked about their day at school. As I read them their favourite stories last night and as the three of us have a big bath tomorrow and I wash their hair, I'm sure they are hoping during all of this torture that their mother follows your advice and ends this misery for them November.
November I guess I am lucky that my children are young enough that we have been able to hide alot of it from them.
Don't get me wrong. They are well aware of the tension that the house was under and they still often see mummy cry.
November I have been very strong in the sense that I am ensuring things change. If they don't change then I will not hesitate to call it quits.
At the moment Charlie and I are both working on our individual issues and also the marriage. My kids come first at any cost and if that means I leave my marriage for their sake then I will not hesitate in doing so.
Charlie don't get too cocky because I am not in the marraige for my kids. I'd rather walk away and have my kids raised by two parents that can tolerate each other than to stay in a marriage where both parents despise each other.
Charlie, I can see your trying your best for your kids but the best is sometimes to let Kiss me kate move ahead. You like my dad have major issues. What ever happened to till death do us part.... well my dad fell into a couple of (or four known) other women's vicious circles cause he wasn't strong enough to say NO and honour thy vow..... What ever happened to being a man for your family. I feel SO SORRY for kiss me kate to ever have to deal with your shit and the fact you can't control your needs till you come home to your partner!
One thing Charlie. WASHING your kids hair does not WASH their mind of waht they have seen and heard of what YOU HAVE DONE.
I'm sorry November, but I'm trying my best essentially for Kate. The kids happen to be a part of this package, but what's going on here is about two people who love each other.
Throwing my hands in the air and 'walking away' would not in my oppinion what A MAN should do. I don't see any honour at all in that course of action.
I am not your father.
I love my wife and I love my children. We are moving on, but we're moving on as a family and couple.
I can understand that through your own personal experience you believe that someone who cheats once will ALWAYS do it again. It's a fact of life that there are hundreds of thousands of people on this planet who are reformed cheaters. They've done bad things and then corrected their behaviour.
Don't go believing that because the last post that Nevina wrote was somewhat negative that everything is rough here because it's quite simply not. There are many more good times than bad times.
I'm on this train till the last stop November. Stand back and watch me prove you wrong
My kids know virtually nothing of what I have done. My kids would very nearly die of a broken heart if I followed your advice and announced that I was leaving tomorrow. My girls are princesses. They know that they are beautiful because I tell them every day. Don't you attack me as a father, because you're barking up the wrong tree.
OK November,
your identity has pretty well been revealed. Perhaps we should wait till April for the full disclosure.
Sorry Kate to keep replying to "him" on your blog... but he needs a wake up call... Two people who love each other... Well you HAVE A GREAT WAY OF SHOWING IT CHARLIE!!! And truth is Charlie "A (REAL) MAN" would never and I mean EVER do this to the one he loves and asked to spend the rest of their life with. Sorry every person I know who has cheated or been cheated on knows of more than ONE other person. WAKE UP to yourself you have a disease and it's called committment phobia... You might be getting help but the real help is in your own conscious mind saying NO, I'm with the one I love...!
and another thing November......take into consideration what YOU have taught your KIDS.
That it is OK to have an affair????
I'M SORRY MY KIDS... The only thing I have is rats and they are boy rats because... I think all males are rats... Always looking for their next root to get kids out of and get a load off.
KATE (MAINLY) and Charlie: I learnt of my fathers first affair when I was 14. It was when I was three... My mother mentioned it when I turned 14 after hearing about a new one, hence my "loving father" said it was the first one since then... Yeah nothing happened on his late nights at work or mysterious phonecalls when my mum was on nightshift at a hospital helping FAMILIES start anew (she's a mid-wife)....
CHARLIE: YOU FUCKED UP! You had something that loved you (and you loved her when you weren't checking out the mistresses ass {and obviously other places} and you two were supposedly happy (apart from you needed to get happiness elsewhere). My last message to you is keep it in your pants. Kate deserves better than you and so do your PRINCESSES...
Um so what did i miss ?
everything happens for a reason kate. It might be a sick sense of humour on his part, but this might be God's way of opening both your eyes to what you have and what youve taken for granted. be it the marriage, your own strength, or whatever. Someday, you will find your answer. Heck, you might not. All you can do now, is decide what you want, and work towards it. And don't let the negative people bring you down. You are your own people Kate and Charlie, and only you two know the depth of the pain you inflicted/received, and the lengths in which you two are willing to go to correct it.
Not everyone is the same. No one knows really who Charlie is, or who kate is, or what goes on behind closed doors.. so who are we to judge either of you?
Charlie, everyone makes mistakes. Albeit, this was a stupid, horrendous mistake, but I believe that a TRUE MAN admits his mistakes, and ensures that he learns from the lesson given by that mistake. I think you are showing that you are a true man.
If you weren't.. you wouldnt care so much about what you did and the pain you caused, and you wouldn't try to fix it. You are human.
You both are going through a lot of pain. In your own ways. Dont let negative people beat you down. Only you two truly know what needs to be done to fix things.
Keep your chin up Kate, there are people out here who believe in you.
Charlie committed adultery because of his own shortcomings, not because of some heavenly paranormal test.
God specifically says in the bible, "thou shalt not commit adultery". His commandment is as clear as night and day.
My opinion is that everyone makes mistakes - it could have been any of us. We don't know under what circumstance we would behave the same way.
But at the same time I can understand where November is coming from - she lived the experience. Just like I am very biased against mistresses so she probably is highly biased against cheating men. She's not being "negative", she's just relating what her experience is.
I'm sure that if (God forbid) Charlie cheats on Kate again, Kate would probably go around posting on the Internet not to give cheating spouses a second or third chance.
I think its pretty clear where November's biases are,based on what she has said of her upbringing. I think the mistake she makes is assuming that all men are like her father. They aren't. And treating them that way won't lead anyone to happiness. It certainly hasn't led November there ;-)
I also tend to agree with the cliche once a cheater always a cheater.
I didn't learn that from my parents. Although they have both cheated on each other, they somehow are still married.
I learned it from my friends. I watched as my friends would jump from girl to girl with no remorse. I watched as they got older and married, and still had girlfriends. I watched as they moved on to 2nd and 3rd wives and continued the same actions.
I also have seen the fake remorse they showed when they were caught. It sure looked and seemed believable at the time. Tears consoling, therapy, drugs, sex addicts anonymous. I learned that caught cheater will do or say anything to keep the spouse from leaving except for permanently stop cheating.
The place where my thoughts differ from November is that I know that I can not paint all cheaters with the same brush. For some the remorse is real. For some they can see and repair their problems. For some the first time is the last time.
I have said this before ... but I don't know which group Charlie is in. I just really hope and want to believe he is for real and his changes are for a lifetime.
still conclusion jumping I see
it must be so tiring for you to be so paranoid constantly
but mentioning the name of an innocent child? no matter how cleverly you think you have put it, thats really really low
Kate: I have read all these comments 10 times over and I am still speachless, and trust me that is saying alot.
Hang in there you two.
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